@kwo_vadis @azforeman @Nawwaf_Saleem @zielstrebig06 @AlsulaimanAbd I think the standard text was written in a scribal workshop. As the tradition suggests. The fact that our only non-canonical texts has significantly more things that look like blatant errors is perhaps a result of a less formal copying practice.
@kwo_vadis @azforeman @Nawwaf_Saleem @zielstrebig06 @AlsulaimanAbd But it is kind of besides the point.
There are clear indications that people were writing down part of the quran. Those texts weren't perfectly identical.
At the same time the script at the time was simply unable to catch everything needed for recitation.
There are clear indications that people were writing down part of the quran. Those texts weren't perfectly identical.
At the same time the script at the time was simply unable to catch everything needed for recitation.
@kwo_vadis @azforeman @Nawwaf_Saleem @zielstrebig06 @AlsulaimanAbd So there certainly was an oral tradition besides the written text. At least as early as the Uthmanic recession. Otherwise, the many different reading traditions (Canonical or otherwise) would disagree on a lot more than the variation we actually see.
@kwo_vadis @azforeman @Nawwaf_Saleem @zielstrebig06 @AlsulaimanAbd None of this, of course, is any different from the way the Hebrew bible transmission worked (which is what sparked this whole discussion: a totally unwarranted kind of triumphalism of the quranic transmission as unique. Wich just isn't the case).
@kwo_vadis @azforeman @Nawwaf_Saleem @zielstrebig06 @AlsulaimanAbd Ironically, the Hebrew transmission is actually *less* dependant on the written texts. The oral portion of the tradition adds, removes or replaces small sections present in the written text, which clearly shows some independence from the written text.
@kwo_vadis @azforeman @Nawwaf_Saleem @zielstrebig06 @AlsulaimanAbd That kind if independence is something we simply don't see in the quran. All the canonical readings slavishly follow the standard text (and even most non-canonical readings so so). This is not a given. Some non-canonical readers do deviate in small ways from the written form.
@kwo_vadis @azforeman @Nawwaf_Saleem @zielstrebig06 @AlsulaimanAbd Al-A`mash and al-Hasan being clear examples of that. The fact that al-A`mash's student perfectly complies with the standard text only allows for one plausible explanation: his student (Hamzah) "uthmanified" his teacher's recitation. He changed it to fit the new uthmanic norms.
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