Thread is inspired by this chap's assumptions:
1) rajputs irrespective of region & clan were servile to Mughals.
2) popular ill image of rajputs as "mughal loyalists" inspired bollywood instead vice versa.
3) marathas/MBs were humble superhumans who don't promote themselves.
1) rajputs irrespective of region & clan were servile to Mughals.
2) popular ill image of rajputs as "mughal loyalists" inspired bollywood instead vice versa.
3) marathas/MBs were humble superhumans who don't promote themselves.
To his 3rd point:
Well,
(A) Marathas & MBs Not just promote their past but they do so from perspectives - apart from hindutv, they play Sickular and Ambedkarite too.
(B) Not just self-promotion, but also trample upon others as well - Sikhs, Rajputs ,khandaits & jats."Traitors"
Well,
(A) Marathas & MBs Not just promote their past but they do so from perspectives - apart from hindutv, they play Sickular and Ambedkarite too.
(B) Not just self-promotion, but also trample upon others as well - Sikhs, Rajputs ,khandaits & jats."Traitors"
Now before I am dubbed as parochial let me assert this Major fact:
Different regions were saved by their own locals & not by some self-promoted "messiahs" from particular regions. Odiyas saved themselves, not Marathis did it.—
Different regions were saved by their own locals & not by some self-promoted "messiahs" from particular regions. Odiyas saved themselves, not Marathis did it.—
—if Impoverished Amer became a trading center, a centre for military labour & centre of hinduism - it was due to locals led by Rajawat Mansinghot Kachwahas & not Scindias or Bhosles.
The same with Bundelkhand, Kangra, Punjab & Tamils.
The same with Bundelkhand, Kangra, Punjab & Tamils.
Coming back to the 3rd point.
These are books by Aneesh Gokhale on self promotion of Marathi history which is good.
And these are his articles on DNA on Rajputs.
1.dnaindia.com
He calls Jaichand , a ruler of Kannauj & a traitor —
These are books by Aneesh Gokhale on self promotion of Marathi history which is good.
And these are his articles on DNA on Rajputs.
1.dnaindia.com
He calls Jaichand , a ruler of Kannauj & a traitor —
—any genuine student of History , can tell that Jaichand was Emperor of much of East India with his capital at Benaras. And History (Prithviraj Mahakavya) contradicts the romantic folklore of Raso.
2.dnaindia.com
He makes Zorawar Kahluria a Sikh!?
When you have no —
2.dnaindia.com
He makes Zorawar Kahluria a Sikh!?
When you have no —
— knowledge on other communities, why even write on them and spread misinfo.
Surely writing on a media portal isn't the same as writing on SM,is it?
Hence Ms & esp MBs use their influence in media portals to not just self-promote but also write off others. Hence 3rd pt disproved
Surely writing on a media portal isn't the same as writing on SM,is it?
Hence Ms & esp MBs use their influence in media portals to not just self-promote but also write off others. Hence 3rd pt disproved
Now coming to his 1st point. And I wouldn't invoke the Mewar State.But from Jadejas of Kutch to Bais of Awadh Ujjainiyas of Bhojpur,different groups charted own course of resistance.Rajput of frontiers being even always rebellious with State Rajputs,burdened by administration.
— post Aurangzeb , even the Dhundhar state started its own rebellions.
While Shivaji himself was a Mughal mansabdar until his Berar jagir was confiscated.
While Shivaji himself was a Mughal mansabdar until his Berar jagir was confiscated.
Checking the 2nd pt.
Past is past, rather it is its usage for present politics that is noteworthy .
All 4 jibes to shame and humiliate rajputs have a Marathi, especially MB connection.
1. Jodhabai" jibe
2. defeat specialist" jibe
3. "Mansingh" jibe
4. "traitor" jibe
Past is past, rather it is its usage for present politics that is noteworthy .
All 4 jibes to shame and humiliate rajputs have a Marathi, especially MB connection.
1. Jodhabai" jibe
2. defeat specialist" jibe
3. "Mansingh" jibe
4. "traitor" jibe
— this thread I repeat is not to humiliate any community,but to point out how public image of different communities is decided by only a few,enjoying clout in mainstream media portals & cinema.
With threads' progress, who controls "public perceptions" would become obvious.—
With threads' progress, who controls "public perceptions" would become obvious.—
1. "Jodha"jibe
Every rajput frm Jadejas of Kutch to Karmwars of Katihar, Manhas from rajori to Parihars of Malwa r ridiculed & humiliated with this, even when not having any connection with this.
Past is Past, but it's selective quoting to promote or write-off groups exists —
Every rajput frm Jadejas of Kutch to Karmwars of Katihar, Manhas from rajori to Parihars of Malwa r ridiculed & humiliated with this, even when not having any connection with this.
Past is Past, but it's selective quoting to promote or write-off groups exists —
— this jibe didn't exist in our fathers' generations since Rajput history is quite local.
Ashutosh Gowariker, a MB & an elite "historical" film maker who recently made Panipat-the Betrayal promoting a nationalist savior image of Peshwas & Marathas, made Jodha Akbar 12 yrs back —
Ashutosh Gowariker, a MB & an elite "historical" film maker who recently made Panipat-the Betrayal promoting a nationalist savior image of Peshwas & Marathas, made Jodha Akbar 12 yrs back —
—which he promoted as a secular inter-faith love story.
Objectives: (1) create an insulting public image of rajputs.
(2) "Push under the carpet" famous instances of prominent Marathas & MBs marrying their daughters to Sultans —
Objectives: (1) create an insulting public image of rajputs.
(2) "Push under the carpet" famous instances of prominent Marathas & MBs marrying their daughters to Sultans —
— nothing wrong with the choices that ppl in past made. But q why past is being played the way it is , in the present. What's the politics?
Hence, while all rajputs irresp of clan & region get ridiculed with 'jodhabai' slur, Gowariker also pushed the M examples into oblivion—
Hence, while all rajputs irresp of clan & region get ridiculed with 'jodhabai' slur, Gowariker also pushed the M examples into oblivion—
2. The "Raja Man Singh" jibe
Raja Mansingh becomes the villain less because of his military service,& more because he was a Rajput.
When Man singh was serving Mughals, both paternal & maternal ancestors of Shivaji raje were serving the Deccan sultans.Even Shivaji Raje served em
Raja Mansingh becomes the villain less because of his military service,& more because he was a Rajput.
When Man singh was serving Mughals, both paternal & maternal ancestors of Shivaji raje were serving the Deccan sultans.Even Shivaji Raje served em
— hence, while Man Singh becomes a "villain",the ques how Bhosles recieved the jagirdari of Thanjavur in TN & how Shahaji Bhosle received the jagir of Bangalore,till then administered by Nayaks,from Bijapur sultans?
All these would be pushed under carpet & Man Singh is a villain
All these would be pushed under carpet & Man Singh is a villain
3. "Defeat specialist" jibe.
@scroll_in pushes this article (dtd May 2015) every 2 months & this has been continuous for past 5 years.
Guess, who is the author? Girish Shahane, a MB.
Who owns Scroll? @samirpatil , Samir Patil, a Maratha.
Just Coincidences????
@scroll_in pushes this article (dtd May 2015) every 2 months & this has been continuous for past 5 years.
Guess, who is the author? Girish Shahane, a MB.
Who owns Scroll? @samirpatil , Samir Patil, a Maratha.
Just Coincidences????
— to which people may say it's just a leftist rag. Agreed.
Ppl might say that they have 1 article on Maratha Bargis too?
Yes they do,but that's balancing act. one publishes 5 articles attacking others,1 attacking self to appear mainstream.Also check frequency of reposting the 2.
Ppl might say that they have 1 article on Maratha Bargis too?
Yes they do,but that's balancing act. one publishes 5 articles attacking others,1 attacking self to appear mainstream.Also check frequency of reposting the 2.
4. "Traitor" jibe.
With established social clout in Media, Academia, & Bollywood , and strong political clout in both Lutyens & Nagpur....our friends give certificates of "traitorship" if didn't collaborate with Maratha Confederacy.
There was no "maratha Empire" btw.—
With established social clout in Media, Academia, & Bollywood , and strong political clout in both Lutyens & Nagpur....our friends give certificates of "traitorship" if didn't collaborate with Maratha Confederacy.
There was no "maratha Empire" btw.—
— this is not to write off a 100 years history of Maratha Confederacy. We won't insult Ms, that's their job.
But tbh, even Mughal Empire was a misnomer since Mughals barely controlled lands outside their Subahs. they had to repeatedly invade and subdue Marwar & Bhadawar. —
But tbh, even Mughal Empire was a misnomer since Mughals barely controlled lands outside their Subahs. they had to repeatedly invade and subdue Marwar & Bhadawar. —
— Maratha Empire is a bigger fabrication since the members of the Confederacy headed by MBs & Marathi Zamindars had to repeatedly wage wars against the same Kingdoms to collect "Chauth". Such was their image,that most like the Bharatpur Jats preferred a treaty with Brits.
—Hence calling others "Traitors" & promoting Self "Saviors" hs little meaning.
Those Tamils, Oriyas, Rajasthanis, Haryanvis,Bengalis,Biharis & Gujaratis who instead of focussing on their struggles,are willing to buy this Savior narrative hv succumbed to this campaign by Marathis—
Those Tamils, Oriyas, Rajasthanis, Haryanvis,Bengalis,Biharis & Gujaratis who instead of focussing on their struggles,are willing to buy this Savior narrative hv succumbed to this campaign by Marathis—
— Mughal Empire itself to begin with, is a misnomer since the Mughals couldn't even control Marwar or Bhadawar permanently.Hindu rajputs, bhils, Kolis, Jats often rebelled, were subdued, pushed to margins, patched up & returned to rebellion.A thing which Deccani influencers omit.
— eg name of Gowarikers' latest movie is "Panipat - the Betrayal" , where the said defeat is blamed on betrayal by north Indians incl Jats, Rajputs, Sikhs etc. Not just self-promotion, but insulting others.
Anyways, inki laathi inki bhains, so we accept—
Anyways, inki laathi inki bhains, so we accept—
@authorAneesh is a history blogger for ZeeNews' DNA, hence an "Influencer" .If he was a genuine History buff,he would have known that Rajputs mostly live in UP & MP, not Rajasthan.
Gwalior & Jhansi forces were Rajput dominated.Check Gazetteers.
End of Thread 🙏🙏
Gwalior & Jhansi forces were Rajput dominated.Check Gazetteers.
End of Thread 🙏🙏
From ~ @pratihar_sipah1
جاري تحميل الاقتراحات...